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Sunday, September 30, 2007

Men's talk, Thoughts, Reflections

man's talk today was great. haha. Bernard led praise! hahahaha!! i see his face on stage, i immediately think of him as the comedian from drama haha! cant stop laughing. but yes. he's a leader as well. and for that..*respect.

this post is for the curious gals. haha. cus so many of u wanna know what went on during that meeting haha..your 'curiousity senses' cant stop tingling and screaming! LOL.

i wont go into exact details but ill briefly summarize. this is just the first session, which means there are more to come haha. okay la..guys can read also..cus my blog is not selective. im no respector of persons :D

today talked about many things. i can summarize in 3 words:

Guide, Guard, Govern

yes..our church is short of men..there are more ladies in our church. ps zhuang said something very funny..haha..he said if all e men rose up one day in positions of leadership and living examples, then all the girls, from all over e place will swarm here and we would experience church growth and revival..:PP

sounds crappy? but that is true. lol..its been proven. haha. he say until damn funny..like as if:

The moment the men rise up, the ladies will strike! hahaha..that kind..LOL.

sin didnt enter the world because of the eating of a fruit. if it were so..then Eve should be the one who sinned, because Eve ate first THEN she gave it to her man. then the bible wouldnt have said, "just as through one MAN, sin entered the world.."

the word man is not generic. its not talking about e human race. it is talking about male man. and so..chaos didnt enter the world because of the eating of a fruit, but sin entered the world because Adam failed in his responsibility!

Where was adam when eve ate the fruit? where was adam when the serpent was tempting Eve? He was WITH her!!! then i rem something someone once said..an example.."Where are the men when the cg members quarrelled with e usher? where were e men when people are gossipping and talking about other members behind their backs?"

if you see someone doing wrong..tell e person off. why let a weed grow in e celgrp? adam told me before when we were having some personal talk..if he sees any weed growing in e celgrp, he's not afraid to pluck it out. if u dont like a celgrp, if u think u cant click..then by all means leave or change!

but of cos he dont encourage that..but he told me if its necessary, he will do it. and it has thought me a lot. just because a lady does wrong, doesnt mean we can close one eye. its good to give way to ladies, but when attitude, spirituality, or character is involved. we must take action!

ps kong talked about not being a compromiser. why compromise the kingdom of God because of one person? what is it to a person, if he/she gains e whole world and loses her own soul!?!

okay, back to the men's talk.

ps also talked about man and woman. that when God formed Eve, He took something out of adam. but God didnt replace the missing part. so man cant be woman, and woman cant be man. they'll often over-exxagerate. because its just not meant to be.

YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED! i mean..we still love people even tho they are gays or lesbians. but thats how life is, if God says it, nothing's gonna change it!

you cant find a true man in a girl..you cant find a true lady in a man! PERIOD. like e bible said, The wise delights in instruction, or something like that. Adam said to me before, be TEACHABLE!

apart from the 3Gs, ps zhuang emphasized alot of service, leadership, simple things like queueing for the celgrp, helping sisters carry stuff, helping the leader do admin, carry e guitar, serving in a ministry, etc.

and i know what it means to juggle 2 ministries at once. and sometimes the things i do, can be tiring, can be draining physically..playing 2 celgrp a week, serving sound, queueing up, staying back late to wait for members, even though i stay e furthest!!! you think its easy? NO. you think i have too much time on my hands? NO. certainly not! (like Paul, haha)

and please..i dont even complain! lol.

all these things should be automatic. you love someone, you SERVE that person! i dont care whether you feel like doing it or not..if you gotta do it, you do it to the best of your ability!!!

yes, giving is part of love..praise is part of love..but SERVING and LAYING DOWN ONE's LIFE is the greatest unconditional sacrificial love a man (in fact, anyone) can show! to be a man is not to be macho, to be a man is to be like God!

i rem my life mottos: WWJD/WWJS. what would Jesus do? what would Jesus say?

ps zhuang also talked about being a real father. communication, time, sacrifice, saying "I love you", hugging your kids..all these should be part of your life!

i dont think any fathers read my blog..but ill just say it anyway. some people just think like e world!!! im not just talking girls..even GUYS behave this way! im someone who cant take nonsense.

So what if someone says "I love you" to you? SO WHAT! Who was the first person to say, "I love You"? GOD HIMSELF! eeee..dont wan la..eeee very weird la..eeee, eeee, eee..

WHEN GOD SAID I LOVE YOU TO YOU..DID YOU "EEEE" AT GOD!!?!

WHEN YOU TELL GOD HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HIM, DID HE "EEEE" AT YOU!?!

come on!!! wake up your idea!!! who do you think you are!!! i have people who confess to me, did I "eeee" at them!?!?! did i even show attitude to them? NO! i shall not reveal who. haha. but yes..there are 3-4 in my life. im gonna be open now.

look..theres nothing wrong in confession. i think its healthy. it shows you're genuine. whether or not u are gonna pursue the relationship is another matter. if you are gonna react like the world, WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM!?!

YOU THINK GOD DIDNT DIE FOR THEM!?!

If God loves them, WHO ARE YOU TO HATE THEM!?!

ps zhuang said:

Maturity does come with age. Maturity comes with the willingness to accept responsiblity!

did i ever mess up a relationship? NO. why is it some people can get married at such a young age? Just because you're older doesnt make you eligible for going into relationships if you're not willing to accept responsibility in the first place!

being older doesnt mean you know how to handle such things! i mean, i still talk those 'friends' of mine..i still joke with them. you mean to tell me, you believe everything you see on television!?! give me a break!!!

which brings me to my final reflections and thoughts..service was awesome this week. what is a curse? A curse is a frustration, a continual cycle of defeat and weakness!!

what good is a promise, if the windows of heaven are not open over your life? i know of girls..AND some guys. going from one relationship to another. what is your foundation? adam would say. what are your priorities!?! continual cycle of defeat? sounds familiar?

Be a man! Be a tither!

Have anyone ever seen me quarrel with another person? NO. yes..there ARE times one or two will disagree with me and start making noise and whining at me. but did i make e fire bigger? no. because i know how to take responsibility and be a peacemaker! cg had this message some time ago..dont tell me you forgotten!

people can raise their voice at me..but have i ever raised my voice. i can honestly say NO! unless ure talking about this blog..then..yes..i have lots to say.

i dont like to raise my voice..and people shldnt force me to. you dont know me well enough..when i raised my voice e last time..e person almost wanted to give up on me, on life and commit suicide!

but that was past. now i am who i am now by the grace of God. i dont need to raise my voice. thats how intimidating i was last time..man, you dont know how saddistic and murderous i was. my words can kill, i carried knives at home and waved at my parents!

but now, thank God..my words bring life, encouragement, conviction, discipleship and joy to people around me!

i still keep those cards and letters i received since e first day i stepped into church. because i know..the extent that God has changed me. what a radical change it was. so please..you think im a very soft person? haha..i choose to be soft.

im not interested to be a man..im interested to be a GENTLEman. if i can..i would choose not to raise my voice. because you wont like it. i know my weakness..when i raise my voice, im prone to committing 'murder'.

thats just my weakness. either you accept it or you dont. if i can deal with it..whether you accept it or not doesnt matter to me.

after e talk sat adam's car along with timo and thad..we went to old hollywood char kway tiao. it was fantastic! haha. just being there was an emotionally and spiritually enriching moment for me. i could imagine last time..the passion of the people there, the fellowship..the arise and build back then..etc.

it brings back memories. then again you say, how can it bring back memories if i wasnt there before? well..thats how e anointing and e presence of God comes in. God's memories become your memories..

somehow, even tho i have never been to hollywood, God began to place this feeling in my spirit man..and i felt the days of hollywood.

thats how life with God should be. close, intimate, supernatural. the rhema and the secrets of God are only reserved for those who are truly hungry and committed to God. among many other things..haha.

after that had a short men's talk in e car..and adam sent us to eunos MRT. went home.

tomorrow is another day..im gonna meet up my supervisor to talk to him about the details of the NUH project and discuss to see if its realistic for me to do :)

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