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Sunday, October 16, 2005

Hot Hot Hot

sorrie e notes for today's svc will be delayed. =) jus now after we makan finish at kopitiam after svc, we went to cafe cartel at cine to chill. man im like goin to cine every night for 4 wks in a row now..hahaha but dun mind lol

well. heres my views on wad happened earlier on regarding e issue of prosperity, the red dress and tongues:

first of all. we were clearly speaking out of the wrong atmosphere and the wrong intention. im sure we all felt that 'discomfort'. God said tt we shld speak out of faith, love and hunger for more of God's revelation in our lives.

Dont only focus on a PORTION of the Bible..we have to embrace the ENTIRE doctrine, from start to finish. like wad we learn in BS, u love God as much as u love His Word, u obey God as much as u obey His Word ;)

Like wad pastor said, we shouldnt build a church based on knowledge alone, but on revelation. to hear from God THEN do it. (rhema) -> With the word alone, ull dry up, with e spirit alone, ull blow up, but with e word AND the Spirit, ull grow up =)

every great things, comes with a great price. like wad ps talked abt today, e gift of e Holy Spirit is reserved ONLY for those who are serious...those who hunger and thirst for it. we will never achieve anything great if we remain in our own comfort zone. we have to step out in faith, because faith pleases God. God is not moved by needs, God is moved by faith. Things happen when we have the effective prayer BUILT on e foundation of faith.

like wad we learn today oso, God moves when we move, God stops when we stop. We have to take e first step. God will only speak to us what we need to do, guide us and correct us. again like wad we learnt in BS, when e boat was in e storm Jesus was sleeping...why? Because knows that we are a new creation in Christ with a new authority and He wants us to be able to calm e storms in our life thru Faith in Him. We can say to e mountain be removed and be cast into e sea and it shall be done as you say.

dun expect to be spoonfed all the time. its time to leave e elementary principles of Christ (milk), lay e right foundation (bread), and go on to perfection (solid food). :D the higher u wanna go, the deeper u have to dig =)

ok..im not here to talk abt the issues...but rather...basic common sense on how we shld approach it. haha i suddenly rem wad ps tan preached abt things ttll stop u from moving on in Christ...one of them is your past.

somehow jus now it seemed tt our past is catching up with us. its like: eh? i tot we dealed with it oredy? haha

so here goes:

before we discuss anything..we shld have the basic common sense to tell if e atmosphere is frm God or not. how do we know?

Atmosphere of God - Speak out of faith, hope and love. There is liberty, freedom and openness. we dun speak because we wanna justify ourselves or to judge, but it is in love and a hunger and a desire to know more abt God's Word.

To esteem others higher than self and to be humble, to be INTERESTED in others.

Atmosphere of e devil - Fear, PRIDE (led to e fall of Lucifer), Confusion, Disorder, Division, Aggression, Intimidation, etc. (clearly we felt at least ONE of these jus now...)

When e atmosphere is not good, watever we speak...itll not work. why? God's presence travels thru an atmosphere of worship and God's power travels thru an atmosphere of faith. CLEARLY, that was not e case. we were speaking WITHIN e atmosphere of e devil himself.

im sure we all sensed the 'discomfort' one way or another. that was why i kept quiet because i will not let e devil have his way. i will not contribute to pride, or confusion or fear or of any sort of division or church politics. =)

so thats abt e atmosphere.

now e second common sense i wanna talk abt. As long as anything is FROM God and IS in the will of God, then we will see several things:

Presence of God, Power of God, And not just fruits but fruits that REMAIN. clearly through the crossover project into e music industry has won 117,000++ souls to Christ =)

as long as whatever we are doing bears forth these fruits, theres no need to question it. ;) what we faced is more than just fruits that remain, but more importantly, LIFE TRANSFORMATION. like was ps said, we dun jus want converts, we want disciples! =)

the last common sense: since God approves what we do, since we see the Fruits of the Kingdom. then why more do we need to question?

one last thing. every church is PART of the body of Christ. each with a specific role, and a specific word. the RHEMA given to a pastor of a particular church WILL BE DIFFERENT from the rest.

we must understand that a Rhema given to a person is for THAT PERSON only and for THAT season/point in time.

for example the heart and the brain. BOTH were created by e same chromosome/DNA that is in e person. one was given e task "PUMP BLOOD" the other "PUMP nerve signals/electromagnetic pulses"

the brain cannot say to the heart "Eh, my DNA says we must pump EM signals! Why are you pumping blood?" vice versa. but BOTH were generated by the SAME DNA.

so before we discuss anything. Firstly, identify the atmosphere and the spiritual intention. Unity or division, pride or humility, hunger or skepticism, faith or fear, etc...

Secondly, once we have e right atmosphere, we see if God approves e things a church does by looking at its fruits. When we read a storybook we dun jus question halfway why this and that...we read e entire book! =)

instead of working from e centre...we shld learn to start from the BACK/END result and backtrack to see if we did anything we shldnt do. Once e fruits are there, okay we can skip to e next step.

that is to understand that we are one body, to understand that each part is unique in its calling and purpose. but yet same Creator :) God will not reveal things to you if youre not ready, or not open to receive it. questions remain unanswered because it is not e time and e season.

as long as its frm God and fruits remain, then its all tt matters. if God is FOR us, who can be against us? =)

learn to be more sensitive to e things of Spirit, to have BASIC discernment and to be Kingdom minded because our lives will follow what we set our hearts and our minds on :))

Christianity is not a religion but a relationship =) Abraham was considered God's FRIEND. Before God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrhoa, God DISCUSSED with Abraham. God LISTENED to Abraham and God changed His mind and plans because Abraham was His friend. :)

salvation is not jus a one time event, but a life long journey of learning and discipleship ;) like me, im still learning...with a hunger for e Word of God of course. =) dun jus drink milk all your life...its time for Solid Meat! ;)

well...ill post today's notes tomoro ^_^

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