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Thursday, February 09, 2006

Great 2 hour plus bible study!

BS was 2 hrs plus today, and ps meng was awesome. hes a really funny preacher hahas. theres this scripture story on how Peter was baptizing ppl in e HS, when this guy saw wad was happening and he wanted what they experienced (e speaking of tongues) so he offered a sum of money to be baptized in e HS...

but Peter (or was it paul? cant rem exactly) rebuked him saying, "...may your money perish with you..." then ps meng so funny, he used 'MODERN TRANSLATION' for the phrase, and turned it into, "to hell with your money..." we were all laughing LOL!!!

then got ppl say when e entire church speaks in tongues its makes them confused, just bcos e entire church speaks in tongues. so ps meng was like, hmm....so since everyone is copying notes does that bring confusion bcos everyone's doing it? LOL!!! then he also talked abt interpretation of tongues, and he went on to say, if ppl use the charisma gift of tongues to speak to e congregation interpretation is needed bcos ure edifying others, yes, but when ure using the dorea gift of tongues to praise God and edify urself theres no need to interpret...

then he said, since we move in the dorea gift to praise God and to celebrate, then is there a need to interpret the football fans when they shout: GOOOOAAAALLL!???? LOL...then we were all laughing sia..hahas. do we need interpretation when e fans do the kallang wave? lol, does that bring confusion bcos they are celebrating to edify themselves with joy and excitement? lol...

common sense speaking, when ure talking to God theres no need to be kaypo and ask other ppl wad they are saying to God...lols its like a couple whispering sweet, lovey-dovey, romantic words to each other then u ask e guy or e gal, "eh? may i know what you are saying to ur boyfren/gurlfren ah?" LOL....x) *pwned

learnt a lot of things today, last lesson we learnt tt baptism in e HS is a separate different encounter altogether from salvation. and baptism in e HS is not proven by e gifts of e spirit, i mean, even non believers can have e fruits of e spirit.

this wk we learnt tt the dorea gift of tongues for self edification is given e moment we are baptised in e HS, and we can only move in the charisma gifts (prophecy, GIFT of tongues, interpretation of tongues, word of wisdom/knowledge, healings, signs and wonders, faith, discernment of spirits, etc...) AFTER we have received the dorea gift through baptism in e HS.

and whenever God gives us a gift, He doesnt take it away, its just tt e gift had been neglected, and e person will have to stir up his faith once again to move in e gift. and example would be mission trips, normally b4 e trip we would fast like crazy, pray like crazy and ask God for the grace to move in the charisma gifts, then when e mission team arrive at e country, and its pretty easy to move in the charisma gifts when God begins to prove His word with signs and wonders.

but after e trip, when e person becomes to complacent and starts 'slacking', soon he/she will find tt e gifts no longer work as strong as it was during e mission trip. also learnt abt the different physical manifestations of the HS:

Falling, Shaking/Trembling, Immobility, Weeping/Crying, Drunkeness, Laughter and Trance. i havent seen someone who has reached e level of trance or immobility. mebbe cus ppl are afraid of wad people will say. btw, its not an emotion thing, its a GOD-thing! just let God move freely in us and we can experience the power of the HS for ourselves.

when e HS falls on us there is a glory/weight, kabod. its tangible and substantial. e presence of God is not just the knowing tt He's there. but it is tangible and substantial. and to fall under e power of the HS is the word naphal. its really amazing tt u understand e Word more e moment u have e original greek/hebrew translations lol.

if u wanna know wads dorea and charisma? go to bible school! lols...actually, a fundamental bible study shld teach oredy..hahas all these are just elementary principles, basic foundations, tt e bible talked abt, we still have to go on to perfection.

i liked some of the testimonies tt ps meng shared. one was abt dr cho. he was driving on e highway one day when a guy flagged his car to a halt, and when dr cho turned to see who it was, he saw Jesus coming into his car and sitting beside him. i was so inspired by e testimony. hope one day i can have such encounters...i was also reminded on ps phil's demonic encounter which he overcame and ps ulf ekman's angelic encounters....

guess i still have a long way to go and to mature to be able to have such closeness in relationship with God...ps meng also shared that recent records have shown more cases of WHOLE prayer groups/celgrps who were taken up to the 3rd heaven when they were praying before returning to earth, overseas. it really amazes me. ive read of single ppl being brought to heaven, now we're talking abt whole prayer groups! i believe it can happen to us as well ;)

and i thought ps kong's sermon, deja vu : glimpses of eternity, is inspiring enough lol. its one thing to hear abt it, its another thing to experience it for ourselves. ps meng also shared on e testimony of this female preacher who went into a trance for THREE DAYS and she just stood there pointing to the sky for 3 days. and he also shared on e azuza street revival, on how ppl were seeing fires coming out from e warehouse but when e firemen reached there they found no fire, and they realised it was the fire of the Holy Spirit that was so tangible.

theres just too many stories, but lets desire these charisma gifts and more encounters with God like never before. not just to be filled but to move from glory to glory! ;)

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